Posts tagged Islam
Posts tagged Islam
Claude Guéant said that ban could later be extended to the rest of France, in particular to the Mediterranean cities of Nice and Marseilles, where “the problem persists”.
He promised the new legislation would be followed to the letter as it “hurts the sensitivities of many of our fellow citizens”.
“My vigilance will be unflinching for the law to be applied. Praying in the street is not dignified for religious practice and violates the principles of secularism, the minister told Le Figaro newspaper.
“All Muslim leaders are in agreement,” he insisted.
In December when Marine Le Pen, then leader-in-waiting of the far-Right National Front, sparked outrage by likening the practice to the Nazi occupation of Paris in the Second World War “without the tanks or soldiers”. She said it was a “political act of fundamentalists”.
More than half of right-wing sympathisers in France agreed with Marine Le Pen, at least one poll suggested.
Nicolas Sarkozy’s party denounced the comments, but the President called for a debate on Islam and secularism and went on to say that multiculturalism had failed in France.
Following the debate, Mr Guéant promised a countrywide ban “within months”, saying the “street is for driving in, not praying”.
In April, a ban on wearing the full Islamic veil came into force. Holland today became the third European country to ban the burka, after Belgium, despite the fact fewer than 100 Dutch women are thought to wear the face-covering Islamic dress.
Yesterday, Mr Guéant said the prayer problem was limited to two roads in the Goutte d’Or district of Paris’s eastern 19th arrondissement, where “more than a thousand” people blocked the street every Friday.
However, a stroll through several districts in Paris on a Friday suggests that Muslims spill into the streets outside many mosques.
Under an agreement signed this week, believers will be able to use the premises of a vast nearby fire station while awaiting the construction of a bigger mosque.
“We could go as far as using force if necessary (to impose the ban), but it’s a scenario I don’t believe will happen, as dialogue (with local religious leaders) has born fruit,” he said.
Sheikh Mohamed salah Hamza, in charge of one of the Parisian mosques which regularly overflows, said he would obey the new law, but complained: “We are not cattle” and that he was “not entirely satisfied” with the new location. He said he feared many believers would continue to prefer going to the smaller mosque.
Public funding of places of religious worship is banned under a 1905 law separating church and state. Mr Guéant said that there were 2,000 mosques in France with half being built in the past ten years.
France has Europe’s largest Muslim population, with an estimated five million in total.
…the only reason one would have for praying on the street is if the mosque runs out of space for a major prayer.
Yet again, France shows how dedicated it is to showing that the principles of liberté, égalité, fraternité applies to everyone to those filthy subhuman goat-fucking bacon-avoiding towelheads.
Of course multiculturalism has fucking failed in France. But blaming it just on the Muslims? Is basically pointing out splinters while there’s a huge motherfucking turd in one’s eye.
Claude Guéant is not qualified to tell people what religious practices are ‘dignified’, or even whether a person needs to be ‘dignified’ (whatever that means) to practice their own beliefs. He is no where near qualified to make a sweeping statement about “all Muslim leaders”, and no one is qualified to engage in violence to stop someone’s unintrusive religious practice (no, seeing someone praying is not intrusive), and no one should be herded into a pen like cattle to practice their beliefs.
First, let’s clear any misconceptions my readers might have about Muslim Americans;
[A] recent Gallup poll provided insight into how Muslims actually view themselves and their place in the United States. Overwhelming majorities say they consider themselves to be loyal U.S. citizens and feel confident in their future as Americans. Greater than 90% of Muslims say that they reject the ideology of terrorist groups such as Al-Qaeda, and Muslims are the most likely of any religious group to believe that violence against civilians is always unjustified, regardless of the perpetrator. Despite their general feelings of confidence in and loyalty towards America, Muslims as a community continue to be subjected to indiscriminate scrutiny and harassment from law enforcement agencies and government, as well as from significant minorities among other ethno-religious groups within their own country. 48% of American Muslims report to have been target of discrimination within the past year, a figure which has no doubt been influenced by hatred and mistrust resulting from a full decade of war and conflict between the U.S. and Muslim majority countries.
This comes in the wake of the third hearing by Peter King about the ‘radicalization of Muslims’. King likes to repeat lies about the Muslim community (“up to 80 percent of the mosques in America were controlled by Islamic radicals”, he said in 2004). These farcical hearings are having a devastating effect on Muslim communities in America. Sheila Jackson (a democratic representative from Texas), put it well when she said that the trials serve only to “demonize and castigate a whole broad base of human beings”. The effects of this witch hunt are clearly reflected in public opinion;
More than half of Muslim-Americans in a new poll say that government anti-terrorism policies single them out for increased surveillance and monitoring, and many report increased cases of name-calling, threats and harassment by airport security, law enforcement officers and others… 43 percent reported they had personally experienced harassment in the past year, according to the poll released Tuesday.
This hate mongering is bad enough by itself, but it becomes a clear case of cultural hypocrisy when you take into account Rep. King’s history with the Irish terrorist group, the IRA. In the 1980’s when the IRA killed civilians in an attack on a military base, King said;
Peter King will not place moral culpability on the IRA for the civilians it killed in an attack, but will condemn the entire Muslim American community for actions it had nothing to do with, for a very simple reason: Peter King does not like Muslims.